Comments on: A demonstration of graded browser support

By: website design

website design — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:55:48 +0000

Great hub! Thanks for the comprehensive basic info about web designing.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:08:15 +0000

Another good article!
One thing I would say is that I would not round the corners using CSS instead would stick to tradition method of using background image or even better, JavaScript, that way all users will benefit from the design looking as it should. I see the point you are making though! ;-)
Duncan.

By: Nick McLennan

Nick McLennan — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:43:09 +0000

Bravo.
This is how many sites should be developed. It is not about presenting a page which looks identical, regardless of browser or operating system, nor is it implementing a plethora of hacks and tricks in an attempt to have it display correctly. It is more a page that even though it appears differently, it appears well rendered.
Even post-generation browsers should be supported, not shunned due to their limitations.
There appear to be three camps on the matter of post-generation browsers. Those who shun them & refuse to develop for them, those who madly attempt to hack the CSS to have it appear as closely as possible on all browsers, and those, such as yourself, who cater for them with style to their best ability.
It would be great to see everyone adopting this approach. Just because a browser doesnt support a particular CSS element, it shouldnt mean we leave them out in the cold. Its all about the accessibility isnt it, isnt that what the web was about?

By: Larry Roth

Larry Roth — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:35:44 +0000

I agree with the principle of your article, usability and accesisibly should be the primary focus. However, most corporate clients we work with expect IE 6 support to match the initial comps–for many this is still the browser supported by IT internally. Our choice is to consider IE6 when creating the comps or produce some “intense wizardry” on the back end.
I must say, it’s a lot of extra work supporting IE6 and everyone would be better off, our clients and us, if we didn’t need to support it. But, that said, it’s amazing what my team manages to do to provide that “pixel perfect” rendering.

By: Dave McNally

Dave McNally — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:51:00 +0000

This is definitely something some clients needs to read! Explaining to them that their sites don't have to look exactly the same in all browsers for them to function isn't something a lot of clients understand too easily. I shall be bookmarking this and forwarding to clients when the question once again shows its ugly head!

By: Ricardo

Ricardo — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:28:50 +0000

Excellent article. Sometimes when clients want their websites to render exactly in all browsers you have to avoid using nice features implemented only in modern browsers.

By: Chip Cullen

Chip Cullen — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:32:19 +0000

Maybe it's been just sheer laziness on my part, but I've basically stopped testing for IE pre version 6. Your article has made me reconsider that stance - and you're right. there should at least be a usable version of a site available to IE 5 users.

By: Ray

Ray — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:38:49 +0000

Great, definately the way I want to work just have to hope I can put a great case the way of the client. Ultimately this is where the real educating goes on and thats one issue I know will have the response that is our job to do however I don't think its the designers and developers that need convincing of this idea.

By: Rob Barrett

Rob Barrett — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:22:30 +0000

It’s a good attitude, and one I think I’m going to have to more further towards.
It’s so easy to find yourself having spent half an hour or more on IE6 just getting the most trivial thing to work as you’d like, when really it adds no functionality to the site.
That time would be much better spent building a legacy, or print, or handheld, stylesheet.

By: Marky P

Marky P — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:20:53 +0000

Excellent article, a subject close to my heart. I really like the logic and its a refreshing approach.