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Tag your pages

Published on: April 25, 2006 by Paul Boag

You can't swing a cat at the moment on the web without hitting some form of tagging. From delicious to flickr, tagging is all the rage, but what about tagging the pages on your website?

A company called Wanabo have released a free hosted system that allows your users to tag the pages on your site. It is a system that I am currently trialling here and you can see how it works by scrolling to the yellow box at the bottom of this article.

In principle I find the idea of user tagging of pages very exciting but believe the area needs further examination and work before a truly innovative solution emerges

The benefits

Web page tagging does offer some interesting benefits. Allowing users to categories pages in affect creates a more organic navigational approach that is much more user centric than the traditional information architecture. It also has the possibility of making the site "stickier" with fewer dead ends. Each page would have associated tags that relate to other pages on the site so continually drawing the user on. User tagging also gives the web site owner a unique perspective into how visitors view the content and even an indication of areas that require improvement. There is also the benefit of linking tags across multiple systems. This would allow, for example, you to automatically associate images from your flickr account with specific pages on your site based on the tags used.

The reality

Although I can see the potential in paged based tagging I can also see some serious problems. Probably my biggest concern is the fact that different people have different mental models and so will associate radically different tags to a page. This will lead to situations where obviously related pages may not be linked because one person tagged a page with the keyword "dinner" while another tagged a different page with the keyword "lunch". This situation is further confused with plurals and misspellings.

Of course this makes the massive assumption that users will be bothered to tag a page in the first place. I guess this largely depends on the level of "commitment" they feel towards the site in question. For example, I would expect the number of users to tag pages on boagworld, to be higher than those who will tag their local council website, because users feel more committed to the boagworld community. Wanabo does provide a solution to this problem by allowing you to turn on "auto tagging". This uses the keywords entered into search engines to tag the page. However, this will still suffer from the same "mental model" problem I mentioned earlier.

One solution is to disable the user tagging and tag the entire site manually. The obvious problem with this is that it is a huge undertaking and undermines many of benefits derived from a user based navigational system.

In conclusion, I am not convinced that Wanabo have solved all of the problems yet. They don't appear to have fully dealt with some of the drawbacks of user tagging and also suffer from some basic customisation issues.

Why add tagging to boagworld?

So why am I trying it out on boagworld.com? In short, to see what happens. By running it on a live site I hope to get a better idea of just how useful it is and what issues exist. In principle I find the idea of user tagging of pages very exciting but believe the area needs further examination and work before a truly innovative solution emerges.

Your thoughts

Has anybody come across any other websites that offer a similar service? I would be interested to hear what people think about the idea and what they would want from a service like this?

Comments

Comments are for the discussion of this post. If you have other questions / comments then post them to the forum or send me an email

  • Post by weisheng on April 25, 2006 11:24 PM

    Haha, if council websites allowed user tagging there'd be a lot of expletives. Naturally they would integrate automated censorship. If I had user tagging on my site I would probably want it moderated, otherwise everything would be one giant mess.

    User tagging does have some very attractive advantages. For one, the author wouldn't have to rack his brains for appropriate tags. Those tags would be provided by his users and thus cater more closely to their target audience.

  • Post by Lowell on April 26, 2006 12:40 AM

    Wikipedia does it I think.

    (I didn't read the whole article, he may have already said it.)

  • Post by Simon on April 26, 2006 8:43 AM

    I'm just really pleased that managed to omit the repulsive term "folksonomy" from the article Paul. Nice work!

  • Post by Paul Boag on April 26, 2006 9:47 AM

    Its okay Simon. Somebody else has added it to tha tags!

  • Post by iLYA on April 26, 2006 2:58 PM

    For some reason Firefox keeps complaining about syntax of Wanabo's javascript (probably the forward slash needs to escaped), oter than that it's kinda fun :)

  • Post by Richard Davies on April 26, 2006 4:33 PM

    Tag Cloud (http://www.tagcloud.com) is a similar service, but seems more focused on the automatic generation of tags based on keywords contained within the content of RSS feeds.

    These tag clouds can be displayed on web pages, but I don't believe that it allows users to add tags.

  • Post by Merc on May 1, 2006 11:26 AM

    Interesting idea but I just don't see the average user bothering. Also, I added a tag to see what would happen and got flung out of the site in nowhere. An unusabile usability feature?

  • Post by Ed on May 17, 2006 12:28 AM

    I don't see the tagging any more. Has a trial period ended? What has been learnt from this?

  • Post by Paul Boag on May 17, 2006 9:23 AM

    Yeah I removed it from the site. In short I learnt that people simply didnt use it. To be honest this was no great suprise. Why would anybody bother to tag somebody elses website. Interesting concept but fundamentally flawed.

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