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	<title>Comments on: Shocking suggestion: Charge more to support old browsers!</title>
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		<title>By: bgrggfe</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9177</link>
		<dc:creator>bgrggfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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The City Council is examining a request to open a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us-louisvuittonhandbagssale.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Louis Vuitton Handbags&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and retail shop at 11502 Middlebelt in the Livonia Crossroads shopping center on the southeast corner of Plymouth and Middlebelt roads.The council heard at a study session on Monday from Taylor Bond, president of Children&#039;s Orchard, who wants to open a 7,500-square-foot &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us-louisvuittonhandbagssale.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Louis Vuitton Handbags Sale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; store at the site of the former Family Buggy restaurant, which was closed several years ago.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City Council is examining a request to open a <b><a href="http://www.us-louisvuittonhandbagssale.net" rel="nofollow">Louis Vuitton Handbags</a></b> and retail shop at 11502 Middlebelt in the Livonia Crossroads shopping center on the southeast corner of Plymouth and Middlebelt roads.The council heard at a study session on Monday from Taylor Bond, president of Children&#8217;s Orchard, who wants to open a 7,500-square-foot <b><a href="http://www.us-louisvuittonhandbagssale.net" rel="nofollow">Louis Vuitton Handbags Sale</a></b> store at the site of the former Family Buggy restaurant, which was closed several years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: jente</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9175</link>
		<dc:creator>jente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting approach but when the client refuses to pay is the user with the old browser the victim... And we should do everthing for the user, right? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting approach but when the client refuses to pay is the user with the old browser the victim&#8230; And we should do everthing for the user, right? </p>
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		<title>By: Agustín Amenabar</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9174</link>
		<dc:creator>Agustín Amenabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doing it for years now, never had a complaint. Still always avoid leaving the IE6 user in a closed alley.
@David Dashifen: That&#039;s great too, charge extra for Flash, still love coding AS3 but not worth it, it&#039;s a pain to maintain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing it for years now, never had a complaint. Still always avoid leaving the IE6 user in a closed alley.<br />
@David Dashifen: That&#8217;s great too, charge extra for Flash, still love coding AS3 but not worth it, it&#8217;s a pain to maintain.</p>
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		<title>By: Face First Creative</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9173</link>
		<dc:creator>Face First Creative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad to see others agree – I&#039;ve never really given it a second thought. Our contract stipulates that additional development for IE6 means additional charges. Similarly to @JamieStanton:disqus, in three years we haven&#039;t had a client pay for it.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see others agree – I&#8217;ve never really given it a second thought. Our contract stipulates that additional development for IE6 means additional charges. Similarly to @JamieStanton:disqus, in three years we haven&#8217;t had a client pay for it.  </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Avery</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9172</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree more. I&#039;ve discussed this with other team members at the agency I work at. As far as I&#039;m concerned if clients want their website to look good in IE6, 7 &amp; 8 then they should be prepared to pay more for the development/build time involved in order to do so.

I&#039;ve suggested a quarter of the overall project cost eg: if a project estimate/cost comes in at £100,000 then to build/develop for the above mentioned browsers the cost would increase to £125,000. I&#039;ve yet to see if agency management are willing to listen/think about this.

My assumption/hope would be that clients would realise that it would not be worth the extra money. However I do think it&#039;s our responsibility for us to educate the client as to whats involved in building/developing for these older browsers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I&#8217;ve discussed this with other team members at the agency I work at. As far as I&#8217;m concerned if clients want their website to look good in IE6, 7 &amp; 8 then they should be prepared to pay more for the development/build time involved in order to do so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve suggested a quarter of the overall project cost eg: if a project estimate/cost comes in at £100,000 then to build/develop for the above mentioned browsers the cost would increase to £125,000. I&#8217;ve yet to see if agency management are willing to listen/think about this.</p>
<p>My assumption/hope would be that clients would realise that it would not be worth the extra money. However I do think it&#8217;s our responsibility for us to educate the client as to whats involved in building/developing for these older browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurmukh Panesar</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9171</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurmukh Panesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t agree with you more! Developed for ancient browsers is a pain for everyone. Users using those browsers should be used to everything looking bad, so why should our site be the exception? If enough sites prompt them to upgrade, they might!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more! Developed for ancient browsers is a pain for everyone. Users using those browsers should be used to everything looking bad, so why should our site be the exception? If enough sites prompt them to upgrade, they might!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9170</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Been doing it for a while now! Clients suddenly stopped caring quite so much about rounded corners in IE6.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been doing it for a while now! Clients suddenly stopped caring quite so much about rounded corners in IE6.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Moffitt</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Moffitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do this but also deal with it on a contract basis. We have coding standards that we include into the proposals. Currently we do not support IE 7 or lower on all future projects. Any other support has to be asked for and we charge appropriately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do this but also deal with it on a contract basis. We have coding standards that we include into the proposals. Currently we do not support IE 7 or lower on all future projects. Any other support has to be asked for and we charge appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boagworld.com/working-in-web/shocking-suggestion-charge-more-to-support-old-browsers/#comment-9168</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should be quoting a project either by the hour or based on the time it will take. If a supporting IE6 + 7 add&#039;s 10 hours to the project the cost of the project should go up. It is what I have always done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be quoting a project either by the hour or based on the time it will take. If a supporting IE6 + 7 add&#8217;s 10 hours to the project the cost of the project should go up. It is what I have always done.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should be quoting a project either by the hour or based on the time it will take. If a supporting IE6 + 7 add&#039;s 10 hours to the project the cost of the project should go up. It is what I have always done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be quoting a project either by the hour or based on the time it will take. If a supporting IE6 + 7 add&#8217;s 10 hours to the project the cost of the project should go up. It is what I have always done.</p>
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