205. IE9 commeth

This week on Boagworld: The tables are turned as Paul and Marcus get interviewed. We talk about IE9 and hear a great perspective on accessibility.

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Web Design News

This week: IE9 is revealed, a new web design resource is launched, visual hierarchy is explained and we apply some psychology to our sites.

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Running a successful web design agency

Mike and Keir from Carsonified interview Marcus and Paul on how they have made Headscape the successful web design agency it is today.

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Adapting to accessibility

Is it time for us to take a fresh look at the subject of accessibility? Phil Powell offers some thoughtful insights into how we might make the web a more accessible place – not just for those who are disabled, but for everybody.

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  • To whom it may concern: I posted an entry on REWORK, the book you mentioned, Paul. http://tinyurl.com/ye5tesx The book is a critical mass of energy concerning running a small(?) web business. It is a MUST READ.

    My concern regarding IE9: will we stop supporting IE7 the same way we(as in “I”) stop supporting IE6 ? Or is going to be even harder to ditch?
    The Web community should be educated to praise content before decoration and thus the pressure on the drop is smaller.

  • Speaking of designers having difficulties with the client (+/- 24 mins in):


  • Really missed the joke!

    @José: I think IE 7 will not be as hard to get rid of as IE6, at least in europe, because, people on IE6 will be prompted to update at least to IE8. But I think the combination of IE7 and IE8 will be a pain to eliminate, so CSS3 will take a while to become mainstream.

    Progressive enhancement or graceful degradation will be here for a while.

    The interview was great, even though it delved a lot in a subject I think Paul has already made a very strong stand… Speculative design. That, I think, should be the designers community next Jihad.

  • Why is it when you brits mock us Americans for saying ‘awesome’ you always pronounce it ‘arse-sum’? No worries, stiff upper-lip! Pip-pip!

  • What’s the URL to the aggregation-style blog mentioned in this episode?

  • Rob

    Hi Paul & Marcus,

    Thanks for another great show! Marcus mentioned Kristina Halvorson’s book Content Strategy for the Web. Check out the interview Kristina did for the CreativExpert podcast (#43) – http://www.creativexpert.com/podcast/kristina-halvorson-43-content-strategy.html. Really good stuff. Like Marcus said, she does a good job of taking an otherwise dull (but really important) subject and making it interesting. I plan on getting the book myself.


  • i agree with Paul when he talks about how the good people in the world don’t get credit while celebrities who don’t do shit but appear on TV once in a while DO.

  • Re: accessibility
    Improving accessibility helps everyone. I am neither sight, hearing, nor tactile impaired and yet I regularly use text-to-speech, screen zoom, and speech-to-text. There was opposition to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) because of the costs of compliance, and I think many see web accessibility standards in the same light. In the long run I think web accessibility will be accepted, as has the ADA, if not embraced.

  • Should we be excited about IE coming with yet another sub-standard product? The only thing Microsoft never fails to do is disappoint… The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of a new version of IE coming out is how many more empty attributes I have to add to the CSS to fix some silly bug. Sometimes I wonder: Do they do it on purpose to see how many people in this industry punch their monitors every year? Or are their programmers simply incapable to put forward a standards compliant browser?.. Sorry guys just venting off my frustration…

    • JaycobC

      Marco, when you’re as large as Microsoft, and quite a large portion of your users are people working in businesses, you cannot go ahead and drop support for their poorly-created software without receiving plenty of criticism because of it. These businesses still use Windows XP or Vista, and it was either because they were unwilling to pay for decent software, or they had a lousy developer.

      It’s because of these businesses and their poor choices that Microsoft cannot release a standards-compliant browser. They would lose the support of millions of businesses and people, because they would blame Microsoft for their product ‘breaking’.

      Seriously, if you have a chat with some of the developers at Microsoft, or read their blogs or watch their videos, you will see that they are more than willing to support standards. They just can’t because of the reason I mentioned beforehand.

  • JaycobC,

    Are you a web designer? Perhaps you’re not familiar with the amount of hacks that exist to make a website preview on IE 6. These guys are willing to support standards just like people in death row claim they wouldn’t hurt a fly… The harm is done, and when they had the chance to follow W3C standards, they didn’t…